- Holden Ford: Actually, Debbie's the first girl I've really dated-dated since high school.
- Bill Tench: Dated-dated.
- Holden Ford: Yeah.
- Bill Tench: My wife's the first women I've married-married.
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- Holden Ford: So what are you teaching?
- Wendy Carr: Um, I'm teaching a class on the intersection of sociopathy and fame. People like, um, Andy Warhol, Jim Morrison. Their celebrity becomes the only thing they need to sustain their ego.
- Bill Tench: Nixon was a sociopath.
- Wendy Carr: Very similar.
- Holden Ford: How do you get to be president of the United States if you're a sociopath?
- Wendy Carr: The question is, how do you get to be president of the United States if you're *not*? That's why this work is so vital. It goes so much further than the FBI.
- Bill Tench: All the way to the White House.
- Wendy Carr: Perhaps, yeah.
- Wendy Carr: Imagine, like truly imagine what it takes to bludgeon someone to death. The lust for control, the feeling of arousal, the decision to rape the severed head of your victim, to humiliate her corpse. How could you possibly get that from an ordinary police report? You know why it took me nearly a decade to publish my book? Because narcissists don't go to the doctor. Psychopaths are convinced that there is nothing wrong with them. So these men are virtually impossible to study. Yet you have found a way to study them in near perfect laboratory conditions.
- Bill Tench: There's nothing behind Kemper's eyes. It's like standing near a black hole.
- Holden Ford: Right.
- Bill Tench: And he thinks we're his friends. Well, he thinks you're his friend. Which makes you a pretty great FBI agent.
- Bill Tench: So you're saying you don't think this, us interviewing these killers, is crazy?
- Wendy Carr: Just the opposite. I mean, crazy in the way that anyone with a truly new idea is crazy. But no.
- Bill Tench: Wow, okay. That's a relief.
- Holden Ford: That hasn't really been the feedback we've gotten so far. Actually, this is the *only* feedback we've gotten so far.
- Bill Tench: I'm sorry, Ed, do you mean that violence in the movies drove you to kill those women?
- Edmund Kemper: No. My point is, in reality it doesn't work the way you expect. When you stab somebody they're supposed to fall dead. They go, "Oh," and they fall dead, right?
- Bill Tench: Right.
- Edmund Kemper: In reality, when you stab somebody, they lose blood pressure and they leak to death, very slowly.